Holy Trinity Church

Some notes on the formation of the Scout/Cub Troop.
Compiled from PCC and Annual Church Meeting minutes.


PCC 20th October 1961.
The Youth Committee received PCC approval to investigate the formation of a Cub Pack under the auspices of Holy Trinity,
as explained by Doug Redman.

PCC 1st February 1962.
The District Commissioner apparently was not keen on the Holy Trinity association, but the PCC agreed with the proposal
that such a Cub Pack be formed. The initial requirements, as explained by Miss Marshall, were for:
Group Scout Master Yet to be found.
Cub Master
2 Assistants Two capable and qualified Scouts have volunteered.
Group Committee In this lies the strength of the Troop. The Youth Committee have little doubt that a good Group Committee
would be forthcoming.
Headquarters Presumably the Hut would be available. It would be quite suitable.
Initial Capital £25 for the first year - this could be quite easily found.
Six keen boys Between the ages of 7 and 11.


PCC 16th October 1962.
At the PCC meeting, Mr Grove ... 'outlined to members the sequence of events leading to the formation of a cub pack. He
had been invited to act as Group Scout Master, Mr Madeley and Miss Wood had agreed to act as cub master and assistant.
There had been difficulties over the acceptance of the wish to identify the pack positively by name with the church but
eventually an acceptance on this basis met with success and the issue of the necessary registration certificate. Of 16 boys
approached 10 or 12 had expressed a wish to join the pack. The Youth Committee had allocated funds and some equipment
had in fact been purchased. It was hoped to settle a suitable evening within a week or two for the regular meetings of the
pack in order that an early start could be made. Within two years the question of the formation of a scout group would also
probably arise. Mr Grove then presented to the council a statement which had been drawn up relating to qualifications for
membership of the group. Mrs Shipman proposed and Mr Jenner seconded that the rules be accepted as set out; this was
agreed.'

'Holy Trinity New Hythe Scout Group.
Definition of Qualifications of Membership and Policy.

1) The Group shall be open to suitable boys of all religious denominations and no preference will be shown to boys of any
denominations.

2) The Group Scoutmaster shall be an active member of Holy Trinity Church.

3) Scouters other than the Group Scoutmaster may be of any religious denomination at the discretion of the Sponsoring
Authority.

4) The Parochial Church Council shall have two representatives on the Group Committee.

5) The above items shall not be departed from except by agreement between the Sponsoring Authority, the Parochial Church
Council, the Group Committee, the Local Association and the District Commissioner of the Boy Scouts Association.

6) The Group shall be conducted in accordance with the Policy Organisation and the Rules of the Boy Scouts Association.
16th October 1962.'

PCC 2nd December 1963.
'The Youth Committee reported that the Cubs and Scout Troop were now well established and sought the approval of the
PCC to go ahead with investigations into the possibility of forming a Brownie Pack in the parish, the need for a Brownie Pack
being similar to that which obtained regarding the Cubs two years ago. It was ... agreed by the Council that the PCC
empower the Youth Committee to go ahead and explore the possibilities of forming a Brownie Pack and report further to the
PCC as to its recommendations.'



Annual Parochial Meeting 28th March 1963.
Cubs. Mr Grove reported that 'a start had been made last summer and the discussion concluded with agreement that the
group should be sponsored by the church. There were no denomination bars. Meetings had commenced in November under
Mr Madely and Miss Ward. More recently, Mrs Carslaw had come forward to help in order to release Mr Madely to form a
scout group. There were 18 boys at the start and 17 now. The enthusiasm of the boys was tremendous. A great deal of
support would be needed outside the movement for the future scout group.'

Annual Parochial Meeting 9th April 1964.
'Holy Trinity New Hythe Scout Group.
Year 1963 - 1964.
The cubs have continued to flourish under the guidance of Mrs Carslaw helped by Susan Fuller and Vincent Moore.
Eight 1st Stars have been gained and six proficiency badges. Attendance at pack meetings has been consistently good and
the number of boys who have left has been very small.

A very enthusiastic supporter of the movement has made an anonymous present of colours to the pack for which we are
profoundly grateful. The colours were dedicated at a parade held during one of the family services.
The pack has attended all the district cub functions and thoroughly enjoyed them.
October saw the result of Graham Madeley's busy summer when the troop started operations. Steady progress is being
maintained with the scouts. We extend a warm welcome to Derek Lane who is joining us as ASM.
We participated as a group in the 'District Splash Night' for the first time and despite our small numbers we were able to
make our presence known.

The satisfactory growth and progress of the group would not have been possible without the hard work of the members of the
Group Committee and the support of parents and well-wishers.

It is hoped to take the scouts camping with the other scouts in the district at the annual district camp which is held at Fairlawn
this year. Our ability to do this depends largely on our being able to borrow sufficient tentage.
We are planning to take the cubs on an outing later in the summer but details have still to be worked out and we will inform
parents when these are complete.

The problem which faces us immediately is the raising of funds to purchase the necessary equipment to be able to arrange
camps without the need to borrow from our friends.'

J W Grove.